The Raymond Ibrahim vs Jay Smith Debate:

On August 21 (Jay's 72nd birthday), Dr Raymond Ibrahim and Dr Jay Smith debated for 3 hours on the topic "Did the Muhammad of Islam Exist?"

Dr Ibrahim supported the view that Muhammad (of history) did exist (which ironically Jay agrees with), while Dr Smith argued for the belief that the 'Muhammad of Islam' (the Muhammad of faith') did not exist.

Here is the full debate (minus the technical difficulties at the beginning, and the coffee breaks midway), along with the public Q&A at the end.

Debate Topic: Did the Muhammad of Islam Exist?
Date & Time: August 21, 3:00 PM EST
Debaters: Jay Smith @pfanderfilms vs. Raymond Ibrahim @RaymondIbrahim-HW
Moderator: Hatun Tash

This debate consisted of opening statements, rebuttals, closing remarks, and an audience Q&A session.

We are sure that you will have opinions on what transpired during the debate, so feel free to comment in the comment box below; but keep them cordial. Let us know if you agreed with Dr Ibrahim, or Dr Smith, and why.

Debate Structure:
• 20 minutes opening statements (each)
• 3 rounds of 10-minute rebuttals
• 5 minutes closing statements
• Audience Q&A (2 minutes to respond, with 1 minute to rebut for each speaker)

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Raymond Ibrahim's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@RaymondIbrahim-HW/videos

Hatun Tash's DCCI YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/DCCIMinistries/videos

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